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you care nothing about me. all you want is my voice. we're at the beginning of a race that has been going on for a01 years. that's like saying, i've got to run for 50,000 miles and ijust started yesterday and i was walking. laughter we still have a long way to go. but i feel like at least there is movement. i'm going to get me a band and make me some records. the character levee played by chadwick boseman who tragically died after making the movie, what was the process of making the movie with him like? he wasn't interested in black panther any more. he was a character actor trapped in a leading man's body. he wasn't interested in chadwick. he wasn't interested in being the sexy lead of a movie. he was interested in the transformational value of the business. ma rainey is here. applause
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the fact it's set in 1927 and it deals with the dynamics of art, coming into contact with management, that it deals with race and the difference between the south and the north, every single thing that is still unresolved within the united states is, of course, going to resonate. # i'm on my way # crazy as i can be...# the director george c woolfe talking to will gompertz. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with me are chief executive of demos, polly mackenzie and political commentator, lynn davidson. lovely lynn davidson. to have you both with us here on lovely to have you both with us here on this thursday evening. tomorrow's front pages starting with. .. "let's play aussie rules" reads the front page of the metro. it's after the prime minister warned there's a "strong possibility" of a no—deal, brexit with australian—style trade rules. "prepare for no deal" says the telegraph. the paper reports that borisjohnson says brussels wants to "punish" britain for refusing to be "yoked" to eu rules. the i also leading on this story. it warns that food prices could rise and add £3 billion a year to the cost of shopping, according to supermarkets. 0n the front page of the independent, calls for an nhs overhaul to prevent maternity unit deaths as an inquiry into the shrewsbury scandal demands nationwide changes.
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the report says that dozens of deaths at shrewsbury and telford hospital trust over several decades were due to a drive to avoid caesarean sections. elsewhere, on the front of the guardian, a photograph of the sky presenter kay burley, and her colleague beth rigby. they've been taken off air for six and three months respectively, after breaching covid—i9 rules. so, let's begin. as always lovely to have you both with us on this thursday evening, polly and lynn. we will start with the metro with a lot of focus waiting to see whether there will be oi’ waiting to see whether there will be or won't be a deal, we had the meal yesterday. now we are waiting for a deal or possibly no deal. the metro playing on this with this headline... polly, aussie rules rephrasing —— referring to aussie rules football but we are referring
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to no deal. they are using this aussie rules phrase because if you make something sound like it is australian style it sounds more popular to people. i do not know the magic of that but maybe it is something we feel about australia, may be the sunshine, and we also have an australian based immigration system. you can get 15 or 20 percentage more approval, this could easily be turkmenistan style roast but doesn't sound as cool that way. if we end up with no deal, we will be ending up training for the european union supposedly that australia does though it doesn't have a free—trade agreement, it does have a free—trade agreement, it does have a free—trade agreement, it does have a range of framework agreements with the european union that we would not be able to replicate. so we would be even in a worse position than australia but the tactic is to try and make wto rules no trade deal sound as safe and reasonable as
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possible because it is now looking really likely that we can end up at that situation but also to make it clear to the european union who they still expect will cave at the last minute that we kind of don't care and we are quite relaxed and we sort of would like to move to that situation in hopes that like i say they will cave at the last minute. there is a lot of waiting for this caving in on the last minute. waiting and waiting, lynn the measure also pointing out that brussels is ramping up its brexit measures talking about they are covering air and broke connections for six months. kind of a reminder of what is a stake here. yes the european commission president ursula voi'i european commission president ursula von der leyen announced these contingency measures this morning and that is when we heard that the european commission dinner tonight that the leaders would be discussing breast —— brexit where previously the day before, charles michelle
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said that would not be on the agenda at office of aussie rules makes it sound sunshiny, there has been a government policy shift and using that language instead of no deal which we heard for a long time for such aussie rules is one of the most violent sports in the world, isn't it? it is pretty fierce as a sport itself. but i do think there has beena itself. but i do think there has been a shift in policy from using language. we have had this move by the european commission president, then we had the prime minister making that statement. earlier today where he was saying, " look there making that statement. earlier today where he was saying, "look there is a strong likelihood not that we might be in this aussie roast situation." and it's interesting. the telegraph picking up on this as well if we have a look at that. we have not heard from the premise or after the meal yesterday. today he has been speaking and polly he is talking
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about this idea of equivalence and he brings twins into the equation. just talk us through his analogy for this. he's suggesting that the european union wants us to be regulatory like twins to whatever rules they choose to impose in future years so that if they change the way they regulate agriculture for example, we would have to then change our regulations in order to catch up and keep with them under this idea of a level playing field which is the european union this way of explaining the idea that there should be fair competition, and they're worried we would either do what theresa may actually threatened which was go for a total deregulation, singapore on c—type style, free—market economy were all to see could happen where we could about goods and services to run in on an unregulated economy that would allow lower quality goods into the european union. 0r on the other side
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that we could go much further to the left ended up with huge state subsidies for our industries which would be unfair and they want to turn to an arbitration panel, an external force that we don't want to recognise to basically complain about that. and borisjohnson thinks thatis about that. and borisjohnson thinks that is like us having, i guess a conjoined twin or i do not know for subdued twins do things simultaneously? maybe it is a sort of stage performance between singing thing. i don't quite get this but nevertheless we would have to move in regulatory lockstep with the european union in order to protect that single market. it's interesting that single market. it's interesting that the telegraph is talking about the pms says brussels wants to punish britain, they want to blockade us. it's that sense that the european union defending its own sovereignty is somehow being unreasonable but us defending our sovereignty is right and normal. it seems to me that the european union has done nothing which could not
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have been predicted years ago. we know about the politics of the european union. it wants to protect the single market, the integrity of that system, more than it once individual particular trade deals and we have seen that through all of its trade negotiations. it's behaviour was predictable, it was predicted, and to now go around suggesting they are unreasonable seems to mejust suggesting they are unreasonable seems to me just kind suggesting they are unreasonable seems to mejust kind of suggesting they are unreasonable seems to me just kind of hopelessly politically naive. lynn he really liked that kind of tween idea he was talking about twins and i am with you, polly, idon‘t talking about twins and i am with you, polly, i don't think they'd like thing address the same but he talked about the eu decided to have a haircut and the uk has a haircut. the eu decides to buy a excessive handbag and the uk must do so as well because they will face punishment. in your previous life as a conservative special adviser which you have advised that kind of analogy or comparison? you know that the prime minister likes to talk in these kind of metaphors, we know
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that he does. we saw in his writing when he was a common for the telegraph over the years... to counter back on what polly's comment about the behaviour being predictable, britain did invoke to lead the opinion to follow on the coat—tails of what the european union was doing. i think this comes oi'i union was doing. i think this comes on the competition. this is the company to divorce for example when one partner is leaving the other and wants to make its own way in the world and you still have these connections between each other that the negotiators are trying to unravel essentially. but in terms of your question on terms of language, lam not your question on terms of language, i am not sure advisers always have that much control over what the politicians say as the old adage goes, advises advising ministers decide. nicely done, nicely battered away. let's move away from the brexit
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trade docs, let's go to the guardian because it is focusing on polly what is happening in terms of parts of southern burros of london and parts of ca nto n southern burros of london and parts of canton essex, this idea of schoolchildren, secondary school children to be tested because of concerns in the increase of coronavirus cases per 100,000. —— in parts of kent and essex. there is only a week or so left of school but actually because the schools have been involved in test and trace, they are actually quite an important linchpin of being able to contact pa rents, linchpin of being able to contact parents, having people of the pa rents parents, having people of the parents know trust and get in touch with. teenagers who are notoriously ha rd to with. teenagers who are notoriously hard to get in touch with for their own parents but much part of —— harderfor own parents but much part of —— harder for the state to contact people through tests and trace partly it's a desire to act and get as much testing and tracing done as quickly as possible before the end of term at the end of next week. i
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guess it is surprising to me this proposal is basically across those hot of east london, kent and essex, to do hot of east london, kent and essex, todoa hot of east london, kent and essex, to do a coronavirus test on all secondary pupils because of a belief that they are all important in the spread and we know we are about to have that sort of unlocked down period before christmas which will also exacerbate the spread and the system needs to gear up for that. it is surprising to me though as a london resident i should be careful what i wish for, that it could be that high in london that we are considering something like that and still leaving london interior two. it is surprising and the guardian suggests that london is heading for tier three. some burros suddenly high case numbers. —— some burros. back to coronavirus in a moment but i want to focus on the independent‘s front page. it is the absolutely devastating
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inquiry into shrewsbury and telford hospital trust, lynn. the voices that were heard in this inquiry, it is incredibly difficult to read. really, really just sad. is incredibly difficult to read. really, reallyjust sadlj is incredibly difficult to read. really, reallyjust sad. i saw the report on the 6pm news and i couldn't believe it, i hadn't managed to pilot the story in detail andi managed to pilot the story in detail and i really... the parents that we re and i really... the parents that were 011 and i really... the parents that were on the television earlier were absolutely, it was heartbreaking to see. “— absolutely, it was heartbreaking to see. “ manage absolutely, it was heartbreaking to see. —— manage to follow this story. the link this has gone on for in the stress is staggering. i thinkjeremy hunt said earlier he could be one of if not the worst scandals ever faced in nhs and it appeared to be... it appears ludicrous that it has been able to go on first such a long period of time but also just the way that the staff treated the mothers
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there, the weight they were so dismissive of them, the way that they blamed the mothers of the death of their own babies who had fractured skulls among other injuries was that it beggars belief, really. it's really difficult, polly, the widespread malpractice that put mothers and babies at risk and being described as a damning inquiry into the largest scandal of its kind. absolutely damning and this too brings up serious issues here. the first is that sense that things can get this bad and complaints aren't listen to, aren't resolved and the system is not good at identifying 0rvis plaintiff failure even though we have quality regulators and we have supervision and professional regulators. so that ability to identify mistakes at a system level seems to be kind of just fundamentally missing here. and
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then there is the other question on judgements placed on women who need to have caesa rean judgements placed on women who need to have caesarean sections. a lot of women die in childbirth and all that matters is a safe baby and safe mother and there is still way too much of a stigma that since you did not have a proper birth if you need a caesa rean, you not have a proper birth if you need a caesarean, you need interventions and need to be supported through that. the fact that there is a natural birth with iran else is a failure and incredibly toxic and i think some of that narrative was present far too many of the midwest in this particular trust. —— the natural birth with everyone else. the daily telegraph, lynn is looking at tess and trace. i promise we would come back to tests and trace and its call handlers, they have been... talk us through the findings of this report into what they have been up to. this is the national audit office report and it really is talking about the call

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